See how the offensively lame defence by Family First’s lead Senate candidate for Queensland, Wendy Francis, of her “legitimising gay marriage is like legalising child abuse” remarks (for which she’s received an anti-discrimination complaint) could just as logically be used to justify banning marriage of any other “traditionally” marginalised group – from mixed-race couples to the poor. Her only real point is that people wouldn’t “choose” to be raised by a gay couple – presumably simply because most of us weren’t raised by a gay couple, and we wouldn’t change our parents – not because they’re straight, but because they’re our parents. She’s implying it’s because gay couples are somehow lesser parents, of course. Who else have been viewed historically as lesser parents? The poor! So, to show how absurd and offensive her restated argument is, the following is her press release with references to gay couples replaced by references to poor couples:
The past 48 hours has seen many articles, blogs and comments about a media release and statements on Twitter regarding my stance on poor people being allowed to marry and have kids.
Headlines are designed to create attention and unfortunately many of the sensational headlines that included words like “poverty slur” and “poor people phobic” distorted the truth of both what was said and my actual views.
I don’t “hate” poor people, I just think government should call their unions by another name and prevent them from raising kids.
That said, I take responsibility for what was sent from my office and I acknowledge that the words used caused hurt and anguish for many people. For this I sincerely and unreservedly apologise. Those who know me personally know that I would never intentionally offend any person. I am not a career politician – I’m an ordinary Aussie; a wife and a mother passionate about families, Australian values and the direction of our great country. I have friends across the world representing a diversity of beliefs, faiths, ideals and values. I have always treated people with honour and respect – irrespective of their views – and it pains me to think that although unintended, I have caused distress to others.
I hold no personal animosity against poor people. The way people choose to conduct their lives is up to them and I will defend the right of every Australian to live according to their personal beliefs as long as their choices do not infringe upon the rights and choices of other Australians or the nation as a whole.
It is the latter part of the previous sentence that leads me to stand for parenting by the wealthy as it has traditionally been viewed. I believe that the foundation of Australia is strong families including marriage between a wealthy man and a woman. I furthermore believe that the best interests of the child are served by being raised by a wealthy mother and father. It is for this reason I stood against Queensland’s surrogacy laws and it is for this reason that, if elected, I will be a voice in the senate to protect marriage from poor people.
I do not believe that upholding marriage exclusively for the wealthy or preventing children being raised in poor families is discrimination. We can’t govern Australia by legislation based on pleasing each group who wants things their way. I believe we must stand firm on principles and values that are the best for the good of the nation. Few Australians would – if given the choice – choose to forgo being raised with a mother and a father who are wealthy. If we would choose this for ourselves, how much more important is it that we make the same choices on behalf of children who cannot speak for themselves at birth? For this reason I will also work towards measures to strengthen marriage relationships based on income and promote wealthy families.
Having an opinion that poor people should not marry or have kids is not anti-poor. Having an opinion is not discriminatory. Having an opinion is a part of democracy and by standing for the senate I am a part of the democratic process that gives every Queenslander the chance to agree with me or not.
I reach out to those within the poor community and ask them to understand the thoughts and feelings of the many Australians that believe as I do. Respect and understanding goes both ways, and as we vigorously debate the issues it is important that none of us lose sight of the fact that we are all people of great value. Every Australian has a right to personal safety, respect and dignity and I extend the hand of friendship to those who share opposing views across this emotive subject.
I trust these thoughts help correct the misunderstanding and bridge the divide caused by the words that were sent into the public domain. I commit myself to working hard to convince Queenslanders that I will be their best choice in the senate to bring balance to the balance of power. I pledge to be the voice of mainstream, non-poor Australia.
Nicely played sir.
Well, it could be argued that being poor is something of a choice, whereas being gay is not. And being poor certainly does not help one become a parent: Look at the lovely tattooed tribe involved in the Kiesha (sic?) case in Sydney, and any number of studies that back this up. I think it would be a good idea to put Centrelink cases on norplant or similar until they get on their feet (same would apply if there was a male equivalent) for example.
Boy, oh boy!
Very few people get under my skin as much as this disgraceful human being. A few things come to mind when I read this post:
1. Mrs Francis- I sure as shit hope you’re a better Mum than politician, as I would bet your kids will want to be raised by a family of dumpster-diving gays after reading this statement.
2. I am not a career politician – I’m an ordinary Aussie; a wife and a mother passionate about families At least the first part is true!
3. we are all people of great value And what level of value would you put on a poor person, Mrs Francis? Certainly not the same as yourself.
4. Mrs Francis- you should just shut your mouth, get back into the kitchen and bake your family some pies,.
People choose to be poor? As in they choose to loose their jobs in a downturn? Or choose to loose the ability to be self sustaining or productive? It’s a very weak choice if it is.
dammit! I forgot….
I see where her line fo thinking is taking her:
Attack the gays- gosh. “Gosh! No-one told me there were so many gays on the internets now…” Change approach.
Attack poor people. “There is NO possible way those bums could afford internet access, right?”
If all else fails Mrs Francis, attack old people. I hear they think it’s a series of tubes.
There’s just something inherently rotten (evil?) about these right-wing Christians and other nutters of the same ilk:
http://hoydenabouttown.com/20100809.7946/onp-supports-gaybashing/
Obviously there are exceptions, but there are things that generally go along with avoiding poverty, namely finishing high school, not starting a family too young, not getting involved in illicit drugs, not drinking too much, thrift and hard work. Much of this is simply habit and behaviour. Obviously there are external factors, but following some behaviour patterns is generally going to be more successful than following others.
Evil is definitely the word to use, rosondalby:
http://viperpilot.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/smackdown-2010-the-sex-party-vs-family-first/
It’s funny to think that not so long ago Wendy Francis wouldn’t have been able to vote, let alone run for the senate, yet she’s very opposed to changing things just because they’ve ‘been around forever’.
I can’t tell whether timandtess realises that Lefty has deliberately replaced the word ‘poor’ with ‘gay’ in the above article.
PS Nice to see you and Glenn Beck are on the same page:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/glenn-beck-gay-marriage-no-threat-to-me-or-america/
Not starting a family too young … finishing high school …
Well, that cuts out half the Christian population of Texas, for a start.
you know a really good way to not be poor? be gay! dual income, no kids 🙂
/sarcasm
Good one l2ts! Yes all my gay mates have fantastic houses and cars and art collections.
also, is it just me or did this comment thread go weirdly off topic?
no-one seemed to mention that wendy francis is supported by fundies first for spouting this homophobic (not poor-ophobic) nonsense, but the guy who was pro-gay marriage, abortion et al. was kicked out of the party post haste!
fundies first can seriously go f**k themselves.
Got me, mondo rock.
I’m an idiot! Maybe poor should be replaced with people with low levels of intelligence instead!
I ate a big red candle….
w00t! anchorman reference!
Brick Tamland: I love… carpet.
[pause]
Brick Tamland: I love… desk.
Ron Burgundy: Brick, are you just looking at things in the office and saying that you love them?
Brick Tamland: I love lamp.
Ron Burgundy: Do you really love the lamp, or are you just saying it because you saw it?
Brick Tamland: I love lamp. I love lamp.
Anchorman references immediately negate any prior idiocy.
You dirty pirate hookers.
Interesting you should be substituting “poor” for “gay”.
This line was in a leaflet from Bob Day (Family First senate candidate in South Australia). “If you can’t afford to buy a house, you can’t afford to have children”. I couldn’t find the leaflet at http://www.electionleaflets.org.au/, but I did find a similar comment in this paper by Bob Day: http://www.sa-familyfirst.org.au/PDF/HOME%20TRUTHS_Revisisted_The_Politics_of_Home_Ownership.pdf (which argues for better housing affordability), where he says “If they can’t afford to buy a house, they certainly can’t afford to have children!”.
It’s always depressing when hyperbole turns out to be closer to the truth than you expected.
@kyna62
that’s depressing. i assume none of the fundies first f**kholes grew up in a rented home? because if they did, it’s a shame their parents didn’t realise the mistake they were making!
On the bright side I have face to the name which will be dead last when I vote below the line.
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