The most spectacular contradictions of the campaign so far

Some of the most spectacular contradictions of the campaign so far:

  • Excoriating “Moving Forward” while giving a pass to “Stand Up Australia”.
  • Condemning the Labor Cabinet for not immediately supporting paid parental leave, as if the Coalition’s Shadow Cabinet leapt enthusiastically on the idea. Condemning Julia Gillard for initial wariness, whilst ignoring that Tony Abbott had previously been scathing about the notion.
  • The media complaining about both parties announcing little of substance, and then ignoring them every time they do to instead focus on irrelevant scuttlebutt.
  • That the Liberals going through three four leaders in three years is irrelevant; but Labor being on its second proves that they’re vicious backstabbing bastards.
  • Convincing pensioners, after being left behind and abandoned by the Liberals in over ten years of Coalition rule, that they should vote against the Labor party that brought them a pension increase because the PM debated it in Cabinet.
  • Damning Labor’s efforts to remind people how recently Abbott and the rest of his party supported WorkChoices and how likely it is that he’ll bring it back as soon as he can as “a smear campaign”, whilst the Liberals busily word up journalists on ways to attack the PM through her partner.
  • Whinging about the Greens and Labor preferencing each other as if (a) it’s somehow contrary to what their voters would expect and (b) every other party running won’t also make preference deals, often in a much less transparent fashion.
  • Attacking the Labor Party for having “factions” and ignoring the dominant role they play in the Coalition.
  • Bashing the Greens as being “unwilling to negotiate” on the ETS, when it was Labor that utterly refused to even talk with the Greens about it.
  • The Liberals bashing Labor for failing to implement an ETS, when they negotiated with the ALP and then dumped leaders and voted against the agreed legislation.
  • Complaining about a media biased against the Liberals, when every News Ltd paper in the country – and even the ABC, which has been bending over backwards not to anger the conservatives – has been ignoring policy all week to bash Labor about the head on the leak “story”.
  • Alexander Downer calling someone else “a f**king awful person”.

What have I missed?

UPDATE:
I can’t believe I left out:

  • Tony Abbott being lauded as “honest” for frankly telling Kerry O’Brien that when he makes promises off the cuff, they’re lies that shouldn’t be believed.

An “Honest Man” indeed.

Advertisements

32 responses to “The most spectacular contradictions of the campaign so far

  1. hillbillyskeleton

    I keep wondering why the media haven’t thought to ask the warmer and cuddlier women in Tony’s life, that he is desporting around the campaign trail like talismans to ward off the Misogynist Tony juju, what they think about his cruel and inhumane policy to tow asylum seeker boats back out to sea.

  2. * The Greens’ portrayal of Penny Wong as “selling out”.

    * The media giving the Nauru President the time of day over his readiness to re-open the detention centre without any attempt to highlight its obvious deficiencies, while at the same time playing up the uncertainty of Gillard’s much more humane & strategic Timor suggestion.

  3. What a load of old bollocks. I’ll comment on your number 4 point, the reason people got so upset is because Labor was elected on the premise that Rudd would lead them into the next election. They decided that what the Australian people wanted & what the ALP faction bosses wanted didn’t miss and which one was most important..

    When was the last time the coalition faction bosses dumped a sitting Prime Minister?

    Shame on you for defending it you fuckwit Lefty.

  4. “The Greens’ portrayal of Penny Wong as “selling out”.”

    I don’t get how that’s contradictory. Penny Wong stood up and spoke for the status quo that treats gay people as second-class citizens. The Greens – like the majority of Australians, according to polling – think that’s unprincipled and wrong, and oppose it.

  5. “the reason people got so upset is because Labor was elected on the premise that Rudd would lead them into the next election.”

    Was it?

    I remember voting for a local MP, not the PM.

    “They decided that what the Australian people wanted & what the ALP faction bosses wanted”

    What the “ALP faction bosses” wanted was what they thought the Australian people wanted, so they’d win the next election.

    “When was the last time the coalition faction bosses dumped a sitting Prime Minister?”

    Well, they’d have done it under Howard if Costello wasn’t so gutless. And they’ve done it THREE TIMES since the last election – doesn’t matter that they’re in opposition, they’re still all over the shop with leaders. Talk about disunity and disloyalty.

    As for when the Coalition last dumped a sitting PM? John Gorton in 1971. Their 4th most recent PM.

  6. Splatterbottom

    As for when the Coalition last dumped a sitting PM? John Gorton in 1971. Their 4th most recent PM.

    1. That was 40 years ago!
    2. It wasn’t in Gorton’s first term.
    3. Gorton wasn’t deposed by faction bosses – “Trouser-Man” Fraser organised the hit.
    4. Gorton was deposed in the party room by a vote of sitting politicians.
    5. Gorton had the casting vote, and decided to do the honourable thing.
    6. Paul Howes didn’t gloat about it on national TV.
    7. Gorton didn’t go rogue and undermine his party with leaks.
    8. In both cases a gormless leader with a short and undistinguished term as PM was installed.

  7. 1. Yup. So what?
    2. (a) So what? And (b) depends how you define “first term”. He’d “knifed” the previous leader, and won one election and then was “knifed” himself.
    3. Sorry, are you saying those factions were leaderless?
    4. As was Rudd. Well, he was about to be before he decided not to contest.
    5. As did Rudd.
    6. So what?
    7. Neither has Rudd.
    8. We’ll see.

    I love the arbitrary rules Lib supporters have to invent after the fact to try to pretend that they’re in some way principled.

  8. Splatterbottom

    I’m not a Lib supporter, but I do think that Labor’s stab and switch policy implemented weeks out from an election is deeply cynical.

    Excoriating “Moving Forward” while giving a pass to “Stand Up Australia”.

    The latter slogan is probably quite attractive to the older male journo.

    That the Liberals going through three four leaders in three years is irrelevant; but Labor being on its second proves that they’re vicious backstabbing bastards.

    Maybe it was the vicious backstabbing way the Labor Right executed their prey. Underperforming opposition leaders are always fair game, but a first-term sitting PM who suffers a temporary blip in the polls has always been given the opportunity of facing the people.

    Foisting a leftist hack on the nation a few weeks out from an election in the hope that the traditional honeymoon would mask the stinking leftism that has underpinned her career may well backfire on faction leaders. Too funny for words.

    And Downer is a good guy. Not only was he a better foreign minister than Rudd (who was de facto foreign minister), he is a definitely a better person.

  9. Alexander Downer is as much a “good guy” as Julia Gillard is still a “leftist”. ie, not at all.

  10. A correction: It’s “Stand Up FOR Australia.”

    Because there’s an enemy attacking it. Somewhere. There is. An enemy. ENEMY.

  11. He’d “knifed” the previous leader, and won one election and then was “knifed” himself.

    I’d always thought there was something suspicious about how Harold Holt died but I didn’t know that John Gorton had murdered him.

  12. I think you need to check the order of Australian PMs again.

  13. “Not only was he a better foreign minister than Rudd” – SB

    I’d go for Downer as our most vacuous FM.

  14. Splatterbottom

    Nawagadj, Rudd like Obama, seems intent on pissing off Australia’s friends. On the other hand, I had low expectations of the racist Howard and Downer, but they did reasonably well.

  15. I’m happy Downer has entered the fray (and started back peddling instantly). He’s an out of touch aristocrat who will do more harm than good to the campaign. The Lib’s were doing great, just by Shutting TFU! Letting Labor eat themselves.

    I do hope Rudd sues him, after all one of them will lose.. I’d prefer Downer lose but I’m not that fussed, I dislike both of them.

    And Downer is a good guy.

    LOL…. Then again that’s no surprise coming from a ‘rightist’

    I had low expectations of the racist Howard and Downer,

    But you claim in exactly the same thread that Downer is a good guy, why would you have low expectations? I know it’s Monday morning SB but come on, you’re being very inconsistent.

  16. Not only was he a better foreign minister than Rudd

    I would hope so since Rudd has never been Foreign Minister, what do you mean by de facto? To make such a comparison is bizarre. Maybe you’re thinking post election and comparing Downer’s previous position with Rudd’s potential position which would be equally bizarre.

  17. Splatterbottom

    RobJ:

    But you claim in exactly the same thread that Downer is a good guy, why would you have low expectations? I know it’s Monday morning SB but come on, you’re being very inconsistent.

    Obviously logic is not your strong point. The fact that I had low expectations about a persons ability (which were subsequently exceeded) is not inconsistent with now observing that that person is a good person.

    I would hope so since Rudd has never been Foreign Minister, what do you mean by de facto? To make such a comparison is bizarre.

    Rudd did all the things a foreign minister does, and did them badly. He pissed off our Japan, China, India, Indonesia and other friends. No doubt he enjoyed being rat-fucked by the Chinese though. I suspect his recent hospital visit involved removing the dead rodent.

  18. SB, making it up as you go along isn’t a very good debating tactic, Rudd was NEVER foreign minister therefore your comparison is just stupid.

    [Obviously logic is not your strong point.]

    It is actually, I have half a lifetime of data management under my belt, thing is you aren’t particularly logical, after all you try to compare apples with oranges.

  19. “On the other hand, I had low expectations of the racist Howard and Downer, but they did reasonably well.” – SB

    It’s now clear why the Dept liked Dolly as FM – he did nothing. Sat in his office reading right-wing blogs and writing press releases.

    I guess we should be thankful he spent 11 years sitting on his arse.

  20. And all that ignoring he did nawagadj, ignoring AWB whilst they were paying Hussein whilst we were at war with him, he’s not a ‘good guy’ and he was a shit FM…. And no matter what SB says Rudd was never ever the Foreign Minister….ever!

  21. Splatterbottom

    I didn’t say Rudd was foreign minister. I said he was the de facto foreign minister, which is obviously true.

    My comparison is fair because Rudd executed foreign policy. My judgment is valid because it was executed very badly by Rudd. Pissing off your friends while strutting about like self-infatuated cock-sparrow is not the object of foreign policy and neither is it a good outcome for Australia.

  22. “I didn’t say Rudd was foreign minister.” – SB

    “Not only was he a better foreign minister than Rudd (who was de facto foreign minister)” – SB

    Well then let’s forget Dolly, as by your reckoning Howard was ‘de facto FM’.

  23. Splatterbottom

    Nawagadj, check out this from Crikey:

    As prime minister, Kevin Rudd was the de facto minister for foreign affairs. Stephen Smith was appointed to the job on the basis he would not challenge Rudd, and he did not.

    Rudd cast Smith the crumbs and the crap and he became in effect the minister for consular affairs. Smith’s department is not enthralled with his grasp of complex issues nor his intellectual capacity, although he is regarded as decent, if not somewhat bad tempered from time to time, (who wouldn’t be having Rudd steal your oxygen)?

    But Rudd’s foreign policy experience was limited and it showed.

  24. I think you’re losing track of your point SB.

    Downer was a better FM ….why exactly??

  25. Splatterbottom

    The immediate point of the quote above was to illustrate that Rudd was widely seen to be the de facto foreign minister.

    My original point was that whereas I did not expect much from the Libs, they did reasonably well, patching things up with a recalcitrant Malaysia, getting involved in East Timor’s push for independence and generally not pissing off the neighbours, which is precisely what Rudd did.

  26. I think you’re suffering from slective memory deficit SB.

    Remember one of the first FP jaunts of the new Howard Govt – pissing off all our Pacific Island neighbours…..out of sheer incompetence. Not to mention the horror start to the Aus-China relationship under Downer.

    But then you could hardly blame Dolly – his FP experience was zero….and it showed.

  27. Splatterbottom

    Downer was a diplomat before he went into politics, like Rudd. they both had experience.;

  28. Well he was employed by the APS in some of the consular missions – I’ve no idea what he actually did. Given his later record, probably not very much.

  29. The biggest contradiction IMHO is that the election coverage is allegedly from professional journalists.

  30. Or Abbott’s pledge to reduce immigration to levels above what is forecast to be in 2012.

  31. Splatterbottom

    The fact is that in spite of the fact that this is an election which will be decided in the campaign, it is singularly uninspiring. Neither major party looks particularly appetising. Gillard and her factional overlords deserve to be booted for their cynical stabbing of Rudd, not to mention their complete absence of spine and principle. The Liberals are not much better, clearly cutting their jib to the opinion polls, and the sad fact is that all the Greens have to offer in the NSW senate is an ethically challenged tired old communist hack. Not much joy for the voters among that trio of tricksters.

  32. I just love the fact that Tony’s views of women have been pushed to the side because he’s somehow a reformed misogynist. He’s got three daughters you know, which apparently means he doesn’t think less of women.

    Well, GetUp will hopefully remind a few people…

Leave a Reply

Please log in using one of these methods to post your comment:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s