Category Archives: abortion

If only the Bible didn’t clearly indicate that a foetus is not a person

If you’ve listened to any fundamentalists lately, you might think they’ve always held that a foetus is the same as a human being, with full human rights, and that this is what the Bible says about it.

Fred Clark points out that that’s bullshit, and until the late 1970s, non-Roman Catholic Christians regularly argued with the Vatican position on the subject:

Keep in mind that this is from a conservative evangelical seminary professor, writing in Billy Graham’s magazine for editor Harold Lindsell:

God does not regard the fetus as a soul, no matter how far gestation has progressed. The Law plainly exacts: “If a man kills any human life he will be put to death” (Lev. 24:17). But according to Exodus 21:22-24, the destruction of the fetus is not a capital offense. … Clearly, then, in contrast to the mother, the fetus is not reckoned as a soul.

Christianity Today would not publish that article in 2012. They might not even let you write that in comments on their website.

Yes, but mainstream Christians of the 1970s were really heretics.

The Bible is the inerrant word of God, and apparently sometimes we need to change it and then pretend our new version is the inerrant word of God.

Trouble in Paradise

Some upsetting news regarding Pastor “Storming Heaven” Nalliah and the Australian “Christian” Lobby, as they bitterly fight amongst themselves:

So since I went out with this information last week, I have also been warned by ACL through a third party that they are planning to sue me. I do have it in writing. Is ACL, rather than holding SteriHealth accountable, in some way covering up and threatening to sue their own brothers for doing good.

I’m sure all Australia is praying that these crazy kids can get it together again.

ELSEWHERE: An American woman whinges about the deceptions in which the anti-abortion industry has to engage in order to fight The Good Fight.

And the Onion News Network reports on an innovative solution

Republicans: some rape victims should be forced to have their rapist’s baby

This is actually a thing they are doing:

Rape is only really rape if it involves force. So says the new House Republican majority as it now moves to change abortion law.

For years, federal laws restricting the use of government funds to pay for abortions have included exemptions for pregnancies resulting from rape or incest. (Another exemption covers pregnancies that could endanger the life of the woman.) But the “No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act,” a bill with 173 mostly Republican co-sponsors that House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has dubbed a top priority in the new Congress, contains a provision that would rewrite the rules to limit drastically the definition of rape and incest in these cases.

With this legislation, which was introduced last week by Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), Republicans propose that the rape exemption be limited to “forcible rape.” This would rule out federal assistance for abortions in many rape cases, including instances of statutory rape, many of which are non-forcible. For example: If a 13-year-old girl is impregnated by a 24-year-old adult, she would no longer qualify to have Medicaid pay for an abortion.

So… some rapes don’t count?

Hey, if you don’t have bruises and a black eye then you didn’t say no hard enough.

Seriously, this is a political party people actually vote for?

The Australian Family Lobby

Following on from yesterday, we (me and various other people behind the scenes) have created The Australian Family Lobby.


Also on twitter – @austfamilylobby

At the moment it’s just a website and an arbitrary list of pro-family policies (like gay marriage, access to IVF and equal parental leave) that probably could do with some tinkering, but there’s much more to come.

One initial step is I want to put up a series of pieces by people on what family means to them. People from traditional families, like single parent and gay and lesbian families, and people from non-traditional families, if someone can tell me what one of those is.

Keri has written an excellent post on what family means to her.

I want to put that post, and other contributions from Australians in all sorts of families, in a special and prominent section on the Australian Family Lobby site.

Please email the AFL at australianfamilylobby@gmail.com if you’d like to share what family means to you.

Helping young women “depraved”

More from the what-do-we-do-about-teenagers file:

“A CONTROVERSIAL program that allows girls as young as 13 to get the contraceptive pill without parental consent was launched in the UK today.

The pilot scheme on the Isle of Wight – an island county five kilometres off the southern England coast – will allow girls who ask for the morning-after pill to also get a month’s supply of the contraceptive pill.

So, young women who are by definition sexually active (since they’ve asked for the morning-after pill) are to have the option of taking proper, much-less damaging medication in order to avoid an unwanted pregnancy for which they’re not ready.

Naturally that has sparked outrage:

Parish priest Father Anthony Glaysher described the program as “depraved,” adding it would encourage promiscuity.

No, it’ll encourage sexually-active young people to get the necessary help.

Some girls do start menstruating at 13. They can become pregnant from that point on, and some do. What principle is achieved by denying them the options that other women have to avoid conceiving? What is the point of making them more likely to have babies at a time when they’re unprepared and unwilling to take care of them?

Obviously these church groups are determined to see more abortions, and ruined young lives. Young people having sex deserve to be PUNISHED! God said so!

Let them celebrate

Leftist humanist secular scum, you know, the type who regularly get pregnant in bizarre Satanic rituals and then brutally murder the BABY whilst laughing about it, are celebrating a Queensland jury’s utter failure to lock up a young woman who took an abortion pill. Well, let them.

The important thing is that the law is still on the books. They haven’t succeeded in overturning THAT – all they’ve done is get a WEAK jury of BABY MURDER APOLOGISTS to let them off, probably part of their diabolical coven’s plan all along. Did anyone check the foreman of the jury to see if he was wearing a cross? He wasn’t! Clearly an agent of the dark one who goes home every night and ritually smears his face in the blood of infants, according to what I’m fairly certain non-Christians do of an evening.

Oh, what a terrifying imaginary world we live in.

Anyway, the more they cheer about this monstrous result where they didn’t send someone to prison for taking a pill, the less pressure will be put on the weak politicians to make any kind of change. If we’re careful, the vast mass of stupid rational people who don’t agree with us will gradually fall back asleep and then we can pounce on the next stupid young woman who disagrees with us about when a collection of cells becomes a human being and make her life a living hell.

And, ignoring the actual verdict, there was a lot for us to enjoy in that trial – the young couple shamed, their private life exposed (except for the black magic devil-worshipping stuff, which we assume a compliant secular media hid for them), their whole lives taken over for two years just because the woman felt she should have the right to decide what happens with her own body – idiot – well, it’s clear they suffered a lot. As even their defence barrister said, it was “a nightmare”.

Good. Let’s make sure it can happen again. And young women and doctors of Australia, you’re on notice – we’ll be doing everything we can to make sure it does. Next time, with a more cunning prosecutor, or a more underfunded legal aid system, or a more backwards fundamentalist jury… maybe it’ll be you locked up.

We’re looking forward to it.

Relief, and anger: it should never have gotten this far

As you’ve probably heard, there was a glorious victory for common sense in today’s – “today” in the sense of when it was given, but obviously not “today” in the sense of the law under which the case was prosecuted – abortion trial verdict:

A Cairns District Court jury took less than an hour to find Tegan Simone Leach, 21, and her partner Sergie Brennan not guilty of charges of procuring an abortion and supplying drugs to procure an abortion following a three-day trial.

We don’t have many of the formal human rights protections that people in other modern countries enjoy, so it’s a wonderful thing that juries are able to step in and save defendants from massively unjust results when the rest of the system fails.

Not that everyone agrees with that aspect of their role:

the Crown prosecutor sternly reminding the jury “you are not sitting in a court of morals”.

Prosecutor Michael Byrne, SC, told the jury he would be foolish to think the jurors did not hold personal views about abortion, but their job was to uphold the law and if they disagreed with it they should “make their views known at the ballot box”.

Yeah, ‘cos there’s been a recent referendum on abortion (and if there wasn’t, Ms Leach should’ve started a campaign for one before she dared make her decision), and because if the majority decided so, there’d be no problem with the state taking over a woman’s body.

Let’s all be thankful they rejected that submission. I wonder if even Mr Byrne is really all that regretful that they did, although his use of the term “lifestyle choice” makes me suspect, sadly, that perhaps he would.

If they’d returned a verdict of “guilty”, I wonder if Judge Everson would’ve had the power in Queensland to simply find the charges proven – and then dismiss them. If not, if that discretion does not exist in that jurisdiction, then that’s another reason to be thankful for juries.

But that’s not the only emotion many Australians, particularly women, will be feeling now – the other is anger. Anger that this young woman and her partner were put through these two years of hell in the first place. Anger that the law is still on the books; anger that the police investigated it and the prosecutors chose to pursue it; anger that the matter could not be struck out earlier. Let’s hope the law is changed urgently, and that in the meantime Queensland police and prosecutors recognise the futility of putting these charges before the courts. This must not happen again.

Relief and anger. Let’s make sure they don’t dissipate before they achieve a lasting change to this destructive Queensland law.

UPDATE: Check out the “lock this young woman up” side trying to pretend that they’re trying to protect women!

Keeping abortion in the criminal code she says, “Provides a thin veneer of protection for women who are being pressured into abortion and that would be gone if the pro-abortion lobby got their way.”

The only way to keep them safe is to put them on trial and send them to prison. Of course.

UPDATE #2: And John Birmingham eviscerates the Bligh government for its cowardice in the matter.

Cases that in a just world would be very short

For example, in the Men at Work vs Parasitical Copyright Squatters case, this is how it should’ve gone:

Plaintiff: Ho ho, the government has extended copyright terms to ludicrous lengths, and we pounced on this one even though it should be in the public domain by now – so pay up.
Defence: An homage to a traditional folk song that is more than fifty years old is fair use, not infringement. We’re talking a few bars, a reference – not plagiarism.
Judge: The defence is completely right, this whole thing is absurd. Case dismissed. Costs awarded against the plaintiff (a) for bringing such a flimsy case to trial, and (b) for being such a useless sponge on the backs of people who actually contribute something to this country.

And in the truly obscene abortion trial which started in Queensland today:

Prosecutor: This young woman obtained and used an anti-abortion drug which contravenes this ancient Queensland law that should probably have been repealed by now and I really wonder what other weird things are still on the statute books. What’s that, I get a pig and “a comely lass of virtue true”? Awesome!
Defence: It’s the defendant’s body and if she chooses to terminate a pregnancy it’s none of the courts’ business. Who are we to tell her she must let her body out to the State as an incubator for nine months against her will?
Judge: Good point. Righto, jury dismissed, all charges struck out. Why have we wasted our time with this nonsense? Let’s go and have lunch.

Please feel free in the comments to suggest other defences that should’ve immediately ended stupid cases.

The things that occur to Steve

If you’re more interested in politicians as wacky entertainment than as the people to whom we’ve given the power to pass legislation, then you might have found the antics of Victoria’s accidental fundamentalist senator today somewhat amusing. First, he decided the best means of attacking the Government’s paid parental leave (PPL) scheme was to further demonise “prisoners and prostitutes” just because they haven’t been specifically excluded (although his theory for how prisoners might access the payment is more than a little tenuous). Steve, who doesn’t appear to realise that even prostitutes and prisoners might have children, even included the almost parodic “What kind of values is this sending to the community?”

Then followed a fair bit of disbelieving laughter around the traps at the shallowness of that line, that quickly died when Fielding stood up in Parliament and came out with this:

Drug addicts and welfare cheats can go out there and get themselves pregnant and then after 20 weeks have an abortion and still pocket the Government’s cash.

It’s amazing what things occur to these far-right extremists, isn’t it? Wait a second… this Bill doesn’t directly address the fact that anyone who has an abortion is CLEARLY so diabolical and evil that they’ll do it again and again for a tiny government payout. You people don’t understand! Which is weird because, without Jesus, it’s undoubtedly what you’re already planning to do. If it occurred to us, it must’ve occurred to the degenerates who don’t subscribe to our belief system, by definition – without our God, you can have no morality whatsoever. And that means the government has DELIBERATELY failed to specifically prohibit it in their legislation (shut up you did not I don’t care what it says). Because they want to gestate a baby for 20 months and abort it for a bit of welfare themselves! I’ve got them, haven’t I!


You’re probably all planning your Centrelink abortions right now!

The parliament will be much less entertaining, if also less ridiculous and contemptible, when democracy reasserts itself and poor disturbed – and disturbing – Mr Fielding disappears into obscurity after the next election.

UPDATE: These crazy people think that single mothers on welfare have a very difficult time of it. But as FundiesFirst put it – “I saw a single mother smile once”. Any welfare recipient who looks vaguely happy at any time is clearly mocking the rest of us.

Oklahoma vs women, disabled babies

The important thing is to make abortion even more traumatic for women:

HOUSTON — The Oklahoma Legislature voted Tuesday to override the governor’s vetoes of two abortion measures, one of which requires women to undergo an ultrasound and listen to a detailed description of the fetus before getting an abortion.

Though other states have passed similar measures requiring women to have ultrasounds, Oklahoma’s law goes further, mandating that a doctor or technician set up the monitor so the woman can see it and describe the heart, limbs and organs of the fetus. No exceptions are made for rape and incest victims.

A second measure passed into law on Tuesday prevents women who have had a disabled baby from suing a doctor for withholding information about birth defects while the child was in the womb.

So – doctors can deliberately misinform their patients in order to impose their personal view on abortion (with serious consequences in the case of defects that actually require additional support and treatment as birth approaches), and take away a woman’s rights to a legal procedure, and women must endure unnecessary and unwanted procedures designed to psychologically scar them as much as possible for daring to exercise control over their own bodies.

Quick vote: which is the more evil measure from an American state this week?

  • Arizona’s racist “papers please” law forcing police to harass anyone who isn’t Caucasian; or

  • Oklahoma’s “make women suffer” and “misinform patients” anti-abortion legislation?

The forces of spite and hatred are on the ascendency, clearly.

UPDATE: For those who are having difficulty with some basic English words:

A baby:

A child:

A collection of human cells after conception:

A right wing d*ckhead who doesn’t care how many women are psychologically scarred by his spiteful new law: