98 names of shame

98 names on a list of shame that will embarrass not only all our descendants, but theirs in particular:

About exactly the reverse of how Australians, based on any recent polls on the issue, have asked their representatives to vote.

Shame to Ms Gillard, Mr Abbott, Mr Rudd – and my former local MP, Mike Symon, who repeatedly refused to meet with me to discuss marriage equality because he’s a gutless wonder who doesn’t deserve to hold the marginal seat he does.

Marriage equality will still happen within the next decade – it’s inevitable. The issue is simply not going away until there is full equality. There is no way now that people will settle for less. There is no victory for the discrimination side (short of Australia falling into a post-apocalyptic nightmarish theocratic state) that can last.

Enjoy your brief success in making gay people live under a couple more years of discrimination, bigots. It shames you, and it won’t last.

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24 responses to “98 names of shame

  1. zaratoothbrush

    Well said, Jeremy. This whole thing makes me feel sick. Such cruelty… Don’t they know how cruel they are?

  2. The thing I find amazing, is that if you asked them to vote on whether people of different races should be able to marry, they’d all (publicly, at least) express horror at the thought of such naked discrimination.

    The cognitive dissonance in these people is staggering.

  3. zaratoothbrush

    Not to mention the likes of Turnbull and Swan berating Cory Bernardi for his medieval imbecility, only to prove later that, essentially, they aren’t any better than him.

  4. On these numbers, it looks like it probably would have gone down even if Abbott had granted a conscience vote.
    :-(

  5. Shame on Tony Windsor.
    I expected better from him.

    Looking on the bright side, this exercise has exposed Cory Bernardi for the bigot that he is to the wider Australian community.
    Perhaps he’ll keep his head down from now on.

    Cheers.

  6. I get sick of hearing the media report that this was the result of a ‘conscience vote’. It was only a concience vote for one side of politics – the Liberals were all forced to vote on party lines.

    Still – it was somewhat appropriate to see those voting against equality, including Gillard, crossing the floor to sit with the Liberals. How appropriate.

  7. narcoticmusing

    is that if you asked them to vote on whether people of different races should be able to marry, they’d all (publicly, at least) express horror at the thought of such naked discrimination

    Well, many on that list would rebut that with the stupid response that people don’t chose their race (due to the remaining false perception that you wake up and go, hey I wanna be gay, it looks so cool with all the persecution and suicide rates and stuff).

    Nevertheless, even the ‘gay is a choice’ argument is easily rebutted that if you asked any of them to vote on whether people of different denominations or religions should be able to marry, they’d all express horror at the thought.

    Or if you asked them to vote on whether infertile or elderly couples should be disbarred from marriage because they cannot (vis will not) procreate, they’d be horrified. Or if you asked them to legalise fathers enslaving their daughters as this is IN the bible (where not allowing gays to marry is not), they’d express horror.

    Yes, the cognitive dissonance, even if you make concessions for their ignorance, is astounding.

  8. Ah. Now you know what it was like when the Greens voted against the ETS and gave Tony Abbott his first victory.
    Suck it up!

  9. Ah. Now you know what it was like when the Greens voted against the ETS and gave Tony Abbott his first victory.
    Suck it up!

    LOL, nice troll.

    You mean what it was like when Labor negotiated an ETS with the Liberals that was a step backwards and refused in any way to negotiate or discuss it with the Greens at all, and then expected that they’d vote for locked-in backwards targets? Oh, and extra compensation for polluters a la the Libs’ “direct action” nonsense?

    I’m pretty sure that’s in no way equivalent to when 98 MPs voted for the law to discriminate against gay people for no logical reasons whatsoever. (And if you think there is one, I defy you to present it. Will it be the slippery slope logical fallacy? Or the absurd proposition counter to all the evidence that marriage without procreation is no marriage? Or the ridiculous line that marriage is about religion even in a country where religious marriages don’t even make up half?)

    NOTE: I am not letting this thread be diverted onto an irrelevant debate about the ETS, and won’t be publishing any comments that attempt to drag it further off topic. If you’ve got any reasons (other than naked selfish political self-interest at the expense of citizens’ human rights) why a rational person might vote for the state to discriminate against gay people, feel free to share them. You’ll have achieved something none of the discrimination-proponents have yet managed.

  10. Narc, I agree with everything you wrote, with the possible exception of the term “cognitive dissonance”. I think this can be expressed more plainly and properly as simply “refusal to think” – it’s a more direct thing to say to someone so deprived of the courage to do this simple act.

    If anyone wants some sort of antidote to all this disappointment, the speeches by Louise Pratt and Doug Cameron will bring a tear to your eye, but in that good way, that makes you feel that it’s all worth it after all.

  11. At least now, without LibCo holding him back, Cory B can go to clown college and live out his dream.

  12. 98 names on a list of shame that will embarrass not only all our descendants

    I didn’t realise that homosexuals had descendants.

    Shame about that.

    Oh, that’s what Jezza means about ‘shame’.

    Now I get what he’s saying. :)

  13. “I didn’t realise that homosexuals had descendants.”

    Living under a rock are we? Penny Wong and her partner having a kid, for one simple example. Lesbians are women with fully working wombs. Sperm donors aren’t difficult to find.

    Gay men have in times past been forced into loveless hetero marriages to keep up appearances and nothing keeps up appearances more than knocking up the wife.

    It’s quite ironic that the people who think that there is no “gay gene” or that gay people don’t breed are the same people who encourage gay people to breed to keep up appearances.

  14. Not only that, but “our” descendants isn’t limited to the descendants of gay people. I meant the next generations of Australians.

    If GD thinks only gay people support marriage equality, then he must think more than half the population is gay.

  15. “I didn’t realise that homosexuals had descendants.”

    I’m gay and the father of two now-adult children both of whom I’ve brought up as a full-time parent, GD.

  16. Wisdom Like Silence

    In the immortal words of Morgan Freeman, “I hate the word homophobia. It’s not a phobia. You are not scared. You’re an asshole.”
    It is upsetting that Bernardi is an elected representative of somewhere in this country that is alright with him behaving like that, and that all those other parliamentarians will have some cloud cover thanks to him to get away with voting against this issue.
    But I find it hard to get upset about a vote that was never going to get up in this parliament not getting up.
    Time is on the side of equality.

  17. “Bernardi is an elected representative”

    Unfortunately most voters, I’m guessing, put little or no thought into their Senate vote and simply put 1 for their party of choice which is why end up with people like Bernardi and the ALP’s Helen Polley.

    http://clementineford.tumblr.com/post/31909708502/an-open-letter-to-senator-helen-polley

  18. Wisdom Like Silence

    Somewhere at some time, some one looked at Bernardi and his views and went “Yep, that looks good to me.” Either for preselection or the smarty pants political science student who goes through and preference marks all 67,000 people running for senate seats. It might just be a terrifying cul de sac in human evolution, but it’s still somewhere.

  19. “Penny Wong and her partner…”

    Where is Wong on that list? Did she not vote?

  20. Unfortunately most voters, I’m guessing, put little or no thought into their Senate vote and simply put 1 for their party of choice which is why end up with people like Bernardi and the ALP’s Helen Polley.

    And why we end up with people like Sarah Hanson-Young, Christine Milne, Lee Rhiannon and Stephen Conroy :(

  21. I like how GD just completely ignores the crushing humiliation he experienced after his last asinine comment and tries again with something almost as dumb.

  22. Wisdom Like Silence

    It’s annoying when someone says something about someone you don’t like anyway but your own concience goes “I hate that bloke but that is a dumb point that that other bloke I don’t like said about that first bloke.”

  23. Handy guide.

    The 41 senators who voted no:

    http://the41against.com/

    The 98 reps who voted no:

    http://the98against.com/

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