Why bother with a trial?

Good news for Americans concerned with the cost of running a justice system in their country. The President is now available to give judgments and decide guilt without needing to hear evidence or give the accused a fair trial:

OBAMA: So people can have philosophical views [about Bradley Manning] but I can’t conduct diplomacy on an open source [basis]… That’s not how the world works.

And if you’re in the military… And I have to abide by certain rules of classified information. If I were to release material I weren’t allowed to, I’d be breaking the law.

We’re a nation of laws! We don’t let individuals make their own decisions about how the laws operate. He broke the law.

Case closed! Time to lock him up indefinitely… oh, wait, they’re already doing that.

Let’s hope that Julia Gillard starts telling our judges who’s guilty and who’s innocent as well. We can get rid of that criminal justice system our civilisation has spent centuries developing, stupid archaic notions like “innocent until proven guilty” and “independence of the judiciary” and “testing evidence”. We can just leave all these questions up to the whim of executive fiat, just like in the best tinpot brutal dictatorships.

What could possibly go wrong?

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14 responses to “Why bother with a trial?

  1. baldrickjones

    Hope and change eh?

    Oh, and you only charge people who are guilty in the military – otherwise it’s a waste of time, paperwork and peoples efforts. BTW, if Obama is saying this, they have the evidence. He’s gone. And if true, then rightly so.

  2. Indeed. Why bother? We could let the right wing blogs decide who is guilty or innocent. After all they are always right about everything. Establishing the guilt or innocence of a person would be a cinch for these narcissistic half wits. You would save a motza on bringing in qualified experts, I mean some of these half wits are experts in everything from penile warts to global warming.Yep trial by blog what a great idea.

    I hereby nominate the ‘Sandpit’ as the High court blog so to speak. Or at least the Supreme court blog of Queensland anyways..

  3. We don’t let individuals make their own decisions about how the laws operate.

    Unless they’re the President, apparently.

    Obama is worse than Bush. Bush was the one who introduced flatly illegal shit like indefinite detention; Obama is the one who embraced those policies and enshrined them as the bipartisan status quo.

  4. I completely agree Mitch, Obama is far worse than Bush. Obama is the nice face that has cemented Bush’s radicalism into the mainstream of US politics – the man who was elected to change the way things are run in Washington and who then turned around and spat in the face of all those who voted for him by continuing, and in many cases escalating, those abuses.

    At least Bush was what he said he was. At least Bush actually represented those who voted for him. At least Bush, or at least the Bush administration, had the guts to set its own course and follow it instead of being dictated to by the military/security apparatus.

    Obama has destroyed progressive politics in the US for decades to come. He is an appalling President – a charlatan progressive with no intention of implementing the mandate for change that his people gave him – and he deserves the utter wipeout coming to him at the next election.

  5. Splatterbottom

    The main difference is that Bush loved his country and defended its interests.

    Obama will not be trumped at the next election because their is no real alternative.

  6. jordanrastrick

    Obama has destroyed progressive politics in the US for decades to come. He is an appalling President – a charlatan progressive with no intention of implementing the mandate for change that his people gave him – and he deserves the utter wipeout coming to him at the next election.

    In the primaries, or the general election?

  7. The general election – turnout amongst his base will be low.

  8. SB, I think you meant..

    “The main difference is that Bush loved his money, and defended its interests.”

  9. “The main difference is that Bush loved his country and defended its interests.”

    So why did he send 5 000 + young Americans to their deaths in Iraq, looking for WMD he KNEW didn’t exist? Is that how one shows their love for their country? Maybe……. For those with stupid, primitive right wing brains? ;)

  10. dubcan1978 wrote
    “The main difference is that Bush loved his money, and defended its interests.”

    Pow! Give the man the buttered confection for the riposte of the month. Loved it!

  11. Don’t let SB drag you off topic with his emotive nonsense – the truth is that none of the political elite in the US love their country in the way that the man on the street does. Trying to present one side as more patriotic than the other is cynical distraction aimed squarely at the rubes.

    All they love is the new US oligarchy that allows them to acquire enormous personal wealth through manipulation of the country’s very significant capital.

  12. “The main difference is that Bush loved his country and defended its interests.”

    SB quit whilst you’re behind. You are digging a big whole for yourself.

  13. Obama will not be trumped at the next election because their is no real alternative.

    That’s certainly true. If it wasn’t, the prospect of Donald Trump running would be treated as the complete joke it is. Probably the sanest alternative would be Mitt Romney. But sanity is not really what the average GOP voter is looking for. Quite the opposite, in fact.

    I otherwise concur with mondo totally.

  14. narcoticmusing

    Perhaps if Mike Huckabee can manage a few more Colbert ‘bumps’ he’ll be a contender…

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